Beer · Golf · Business

Beer, Golf & Business. Three CPAs, three handicaps, one very serious leaderboard.
Three CPAs who each run a small firm crack open a beer, talk golf like it’s a second job, and dig into the real business advisory questions they see every week. The golf varies. The beer gets a score.

The show
Beer. Golf. Business.
Beer
In the glass
Each of us brings a beer and explains the pick. At the end it gets a score out of 10, decimals included, and it goes on the RDTFM Leaderboard permanently. That seemed like a good idea at the time.
Scale
1 to 10, decimals allowed
Golf
On the course
Every episode gets into the latest rounds. Club championships, swing rebuilds, new drivers, and the shot on 14 we’d rather not discuss. We discuss it anyway.
Handicaps
Business
At the firm
Three small-firm owners work through a real question from our own practices. Cash reserves, S Corps, client concentration, pricing. General education, not advice for your situation. That part’s on your CPA.
Segment
The Approach, every episode
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Episode 11
Group Therapy at We-Ko-Pa, Ranking Scottsdale, and the Partner Prenup
38 min
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Explicit
Welcome back to RDTFM, where Dalton, Chad, and Chris crack open Ska's Modus Hoperandi, Edmund's Oast's Bound By Time, and Against the Grain's Citra Ass Down. This week the guys record in person after two rough rounds at We-Ko-Pa, then dig into what CPAs look for in an operating agreement.
Golf
Business
Group Therapy at We-Ko-Pa
The Final Pour · Ep. 11
The round
How every episode plays
Hole 1
Pop That Top
Everybody cracks a beer and tells you what it is, where it’s from, and why they picked it. Sometimes the reason is the label. That’s rarely a good reason.
Hole 2
The Scorecard
A few minutes of golf. Recent rounds, swing fixes, new gear, and an honest accounting of what went wrong. Honest accounting is sort of our whole thing.
Hole 3
The Approach
The heart of the show. One of us brings a real business question from our own firms, and the three of us talk through how we’d think about it. We don’t always agree. That’s usually the good part.
The RDTFM Leaderboard
Every beer. Rated. Forever.
Each host brings a beer, and in The Final Pour it gets a score out of 10, down to the decimal. A 9 or 10 is the holy grail. A 5 is solid. A 2 means we’re looking for a polite way to pour it down the sink.
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10
39 min
Falconry in Ireland, a Lost Rangefinder, and When AI Replaces a Hire
Welcome back to RDTFM, where Dalton, Chad, and Chris crack open Kilkenny's Red Irish Cream Ale, Cigar City's Oatmeal Raisin Cookie, and Against the Grain's Citra Ass Down. This week Dalton tries falconry in Ireland, Chad loses track of his rangefinder, and the guys debate when AI should replace a hire.
Golf
A Lost Rangefinder
Business
Falconry in Ireland
Episode details
09
45 min
A First Eagle, the 80% Handoff Rule, and a 14% Cheesecake Stout
Welcome back to RDTFM, where Dalton, Chad, and Chris crack open Galway Hooker's Irish Pale Ale, Odell's Isolation Ale, and Abomination Brewing's Midnight Snack. This week Dalton checks in from a hotel in Dublin, Chad makes his first eagle, and the guys talk about handing off a responsibility and getting it off your mind for good.
Golf
Business
A First Eagle
Episode details
08
49 min
A $1,500 Garage Simulator, Where to Start with AI, and an 8.8 IPA
Welcome back to RDTFM, where Dalton, Chad, and Chris crack open Tennessee Brew Works' Hippies & Cowboys, Great Divide's Yeti Imperial Stout, and Lawson's Finest Sip of Sunshine. This week the guys price out Chad's $1,500 garage simulator, talk through the awkward side of client golf, and take on the question Chris keeps hearing: where do you even start with AI?
Golf
Business
A $1
Episode details
07
45 min
A Membership Audition, the Sleep at Night Cash Test, and Tasty Jams
Welcome back to RDTFM, where Dalton, Chad, and Chris crack open Hamilton Family Brewery's Cactus Jack, Brix City's Tasty Jams, and Edmund's Oast Bound by Time IPA on tax deadline day. This week the guys cover an Eagles meltdown in London, a membership audition round in Southern California, and how much cash a business should actually keep in the bank.
Golf
A Membership Audition
Business
The Sleep at Night Cash Test
Episode details
06
41 min
Club Championship Lessons, the Customer Concentration Trap, and Iron Maiden Beer
Dalton, Chad, and Chris are back with Birdsong Brewery's Hazy Sexy Cool, Stone's Chill Villain IPA, and a Lagunitas Trooper with Iron Maiden artwork on the can. This week the guys cover a club championship that went sideways in three holes, a cramp that ended a round on 14, and what to do when one customer is 25% of your revenue and wants a discount.
Golf
Club Championship Lessons
Business
The Customer Concentration Trap
Episode details
05
35 min
Club Championship Week, Messy Prior-Year Returns, and TikTok Tax Advice
Dalton, Chad, and Chris are back with a Fractal Enigma, a 10% triple IPA that might end Chad's night early, and a blood orange IPA. This week the guys cover range sessions that don't carry over to the course, a junior golfer's first legit par, and what to do when a new client's prior-year books turn out to be a disaster.
Golf
Club Championship Week
Business
Messy Prior-Year Returns
Episode details
Your hosts
Three CPAs, three firms, three handicaps
South Carolina, Kansas, and California. One of us can actually play.
CH
Chris Hervochon
CPA, CVA · Hilton Head Island, SC
Better Numbers
CA
Chad Allen
CPA · Lawrence, KS
Hutchins & Haake
DS
Dalton Sweaney
CPA · Upland, CA
Gray, Salt & Associates
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